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Post by Zeus-DK1- on Feb 8, 2006 10:20:52 GMT -6
got several questions...
whats a tree skins cooper?
also yeah they had something out where u could be on cb list but still cheat long time ago...
also say if u did cheat and it made your game mess up... u could just unistall and reinstall the game and remove cb and it would work again anyways wouldent it? so then cheaters could just still play anyways ?
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Post by ghettodk1 on Feb 8, 2006 10:32:59 GMT -6
I've never actually seen a screenshot of a tree skin, but from what I've heard, when you equip a SAW with your player, other players show as having a tree attached to them so they are easy to spot. I guess it could be useful on some maps, but I can't help but think it would just give you a headache on a map with a lot of trees on it. Unless the tree is unique or something. That's just what I've heard on it, so it could be off as to what the tree skin actually is.
There really is no fool-proof way of stopping cheaters. The only thing you can hope for is that they mess up and give themselves away as a cheater. Then you have to hope that someone gets their IP from the server so you can avoid allowing that IP address onto your squad under a different name. But as far as stopping them from accessing the game, it isn't gonna happen. Maybe if DF2 were new still, there would be a chance for someone to create a more advanced CB program, but the game is just too old for someone to dedicate that much time and effort at stopping cheaters.
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Post by Zeus-DK1- on Feb 8, 2006 11:31:45 GMT -6
bahhhhhh i say lets kill the people who made the game who wont take time to make a thing and also kill all da cheaters muahahaha ! when i become president of the united states i will make that my first priority !
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Post by Echo on Feb 8, 2006 17:12:15 GMT -6
I'm not sure what presidential party would support a candidate who's platform includes, "Kill all the cheaters that play Delta Froce 2." I really can't see you getting too many votes... although that really is a huge issue facing the United States.
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Post by ghettodk1 on Feb 8, 2006 17:28:56 GMT -6
Iraq is currently developing a trainer that will allow them to autonade... and by autonade, I mean throw rocks further
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Post by Zeus-DK1- on Feb 8, 2006 17:33:04 GMT -6
lol... well afganistan is developing a way to speed up a camel with a gps system built into it.
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Post by biø on Feb 8, 2006 20:47:00 GMT -6
Iraq is currently developing a trainer that will allow them to autonade... and by autonade, I mean throw rocks further LOL!. yea coop lol im not denying that he made cheat mods also. www.undergroundhavoc.com is the site that the cheats he made were on. However, that site and its creaters/admins do no longer support or have anything to do with cheating. As for spy, he cheats on occasion, from what hes told me, but just because "its fun to fly around" lol. Other than that there was no real reason (unless you know something i dont) to delete his email coop lol. (im not trying to be c0cky -if i put an "o" it changes to "thingy"- or start anything lol). Hes a trustworthy guy and my friend. as you can see he helped out zeus, sort of. ^wanted to stress that part to make sure you know im not just sticky up for my friend lol well ... tootles ;D
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howzerquade
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Post by howzerquade on Feb 9, 2006 18:44:58 GMT -6
Cheat Detection Idea-- It's actually very possible, and If enough work was put into it then it could even show a description on the cheats
But it would Require alot of Work and Dedication so I don't think it would be made for Delta Force 2
Tree Skins-- I won't go into Details on how these can be made But basicly, it just shows everyone as a tree, simple but I assume it has its downsides, since I have heard that you still gotta aim at were the person should be
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Post by toXic on Feb 9, 2006 20:36:50 GMT -6
But would that really be a problem? If you see a tree walking towards you just prone+scope= kill.
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Post by ghettodk1 on Feb 9, 2006 21:01:50 GMT -6
No one is doubting the possibility of making a program, but you repeated my point that there is no one left that would dedicate that much time (designing, programming, testing, troubleshooting, distributing, etc) to put out a more effective CB program.
So yes, in the most optimistic sense it is possible (though it still would have to act as a trojan, as stated earlier), but it isn't likely to happen. The game has lasted 7-8 years, that's longer than nearly any other game I've heard of to still have a steady following of a few hundred players online at any given time. But in all reality, in another year or two the game will be on its way out. I quit for 3 years, came back and was shocked to see this many people still playing, so hopefully I'll be surprised again. But it's doubtful :-\
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Wolverine=DS=
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Post by Wolverine=DS= on Feb 10, 2006 10:08:55 GMT -6
We will end up hosting on our servers for CB only before too long. Then we know no one is cheating, except for glitchers and super prone jumpers, lol! Cheaters are just afraid to take a butt kcikin'. It is only a game, why cheat? It is for fun, right? Well the newer DF games are able to stop cheaters now, though. I have all Delta Force games, but for some reson, I just still love DF2 the best. Probably because f all the friends we have made here!
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Post by Cooperkhan on Feb 10, 2006 11:04:05 GMT -6
CB as a whole is washed up and useless now. As many of you already know, there is an Anti-CB trainer out now that you can use and still have CB installed and show up on the CB list. Even before it's release, there were a few things out that allowed people to cheat with it. Couple that with the use of things like tree skins and CB means nothing now, that's why I've never though much of it, and why I've never cared if it was required for a match or not. The creators of CB used all know trainer/cheat info when they created CB and made it so it ould detect all of those files. The creators of the Anti-CB trainer did research and found what parts of the game could be changed to allow one to cheat, but not be affected by CB being installed. Bottom line is CB is now rendered obsolete unless a new program is made, because the current one will not be updated. I'm with you on DF2 being the best Wolv. I've got all the games too and DF2 is by far my favorite. The best game play and what not, and come on, the graphics aren't that bad, just think about what the original DOOM games looked like, lol. Hopefully DF2 will keep going strong for a few more years. People like us and the other dedicated squads, modders like Underground Havoc and even MMH will help keep things going. I'm not trying to be rude at all Wolverine, and I understand your desire for a cheat free server as that's something we all want, but in reality CB isn't going to help much anymore. yea coop lol im not denying that he made cheat mods also. www.undergroundhavoc.com is the site that the cheats he made were on. However, that site and its creaters/admins do no longer support or have anything to do with cheating. I kinda know all about that Bio. I get to help out a little over there with testing the DF2 Art Of War mod, maps, etc. Underground Havoc has some talented people and some good mods (AK-47, Laser Designator, Flag Changer, etc.) and as Havoc knows I'm glad that trainers are no longer supported there. And, good to see Howzer aka Havoc here! About time you stopped by our forum, lol.
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howzerquade
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Post by howzerquade on Feb 10, 2006 14:08:13 GMT -6
But would that really be a problem? If you see a tree walking towards you just prone+scope= kill. Some trees in df2 are big compared to the players so basicly you'd have to guess were the actuall players are, since the player hitboxes are not modified with the tree skin, so hitting snipers would be hard Anyways, Whats up Coop I'll have another ANM update finished soon, I'd like some feedback on it when it's done, I think a Public Release could be interesting, if anyone else wants to check it out sometime soon? or something? Updated ANM=Player Animations / Movements in game
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Post by biø on Feb 11, 2006 20:10:07 GMT -6
yes the art of war and stuff are fun. and being the ninja i am i downloaded the Enhanced Movements mod. it was pretty sweet.
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